"I'm sick of hearing people say they hit a lift "in nanos". That's like Michael Jordan saying he dropped 40 points wearing a pair of Christian Louboutin's!! If he would've had basketball shoes on he would've done even better!!!"
Enough about Rich, let's talk about me.....I snatch "better" in flat shoes. I have been hitting PR's lately in my INOV8 192's. They have a 0 mm drop from heel to toe and weigh 192 grams (or 6.8 oz). That makes them flatter than nanos (4.0 are a 4 mm drop) and MUCH flatter than Oly's which are usually 16.5 mm.
When I went to the Donny Shankle seminar I was coming off of a 178.2 lb snatch the week before in my INOV8's. Up till then I was stalled at 165 for a WHILE. I was ALWAYS catching on my toes in my Oly shoes for some reason. Donny broke it down by telling me I didn't know how to pull right in Oly shoes and needed to practice. (I've been practicing for years Donny....I suck)
When attacking the Clean ladder at the 2012 Games and the C&J ladder in 2013, Rich wore Oly shoes...
Enough about Rich, let's talk about me.....I snatch "better" in flat shoes. I have been hitting PR's lately in my INOV8 192's. They have a 0 mm drop from heel to toe and weigh 192 grams (or 6.8 oz). That makes them flatter than nanos (4.0 are a 4 mm drop) and MUCH flatter than Oly's which are usually 16.5 mm.
When I went to the Donny Shankle seminar I was coming off of a 178.2 lb snatch the week before in my INOV8's. Up till then I was stalled at 165 for a WHILE. I was ALWAYS catching on my toes in my Oly shoes for some reason. Donny broke it down by telling me I didn't know how to pull right in Oly shoes and needed to practice. (I've been practicing for years Donny....I suck)
I couldn't figure it out, I just thought my calves are tight or maybe I'm not moving fast enough to get my heels down. And then the day in mid Jan where I just kept adding weight in my flat as a board INOV8s and I kept making lifts....I even did a heat check and pulled under 185 that day but missed... badly....
In any case, Donny wouldn't allow us to use anything but Oly shoes. I made 160 at his camp and missed 165 and he immediately told me to drop weight and work on technique. Meanwhile everyone else was PR'ing their lifts and I'm over in the corner at 70%....
So I came to the realization that in my flat shoes I am able to stay back longer on my heels. I wasn't being "tipped" forward onto my toes. So when coaches talk about being patient and staying back on the heels while the shoulders are still over the bar through that 2nd pull, I guess I'm just too weak to do it or in too much of a hurry.
In the bottom, Oly shoes will make up for a host of mobility issues. I don't have those problems and look fine in my bottom position with flat shoes. So the trade-off for me is that I have a better pull and the bar stays closer and I'm not chasing it. ALSO, my feet move much faster in the 192's due to the weight. The Reebok 2.0 lifters are a whopping 408 grams (14.6 oz) and I use INOV8 335 fastlifts which are 335 grams or almost 2x more than my 192's.
Ok so back to Rich. I think that his feet move faster into landing position and he can stay back longer in his pull to generate more power with nanos. That's what I think. And as far as me being able to snatch more in Oly shoes.....I can't. I'm a crossfitter though and if I can snatch in metcon shoes, then isn't that better anyway?
Oh and today I hit 179.4 on my snatch!